Your feedback is critical

Posted By: Post -MSFT on 06-09-2008

After we released Office Live Add-in v1.0,  we listened hard to your feedback  both through the community forums and our  Support team. What we heard is that you liked the Office Live Add-in but that there was room for improvement in these areas:

  • Opening a document from my workspace has too many credential prompts.
  • Opening a document takes too much time.
  • You need a “clean machine” for the integration to work well. Otherwise,  it sometimes  doesn’t seem to work and gives blank file dialog boxes.
Our investigation

As we looked into  these issues, we found a couple of interesting things: 

1) The behavior of the integration is highly dependent on the version of OS and Office installed.

Vista and Office 2007 behave very differently than other OS/Office configurations, which explains why some of you are seeing behavior that others don’t.  Office Live Workspace uses Office dlls and network stacks within the OS in order for the integration to work, and these differences cause our integration to behave differently, such as how many times you get prompted for your credentials within Office.  On XP, you need to click “Open” or “Save” for the dialog to pull in the workspace view whereas in Vista, the workspace view gets pulled into the File dialog automatically.

2) Performance partly depends on how long the OS and the service “communicate” on getting valid credentials for that user.

If we make multiple roundtrips to the service, it takes longer (and this is dependent on #1). When this fails, for various reasons such as network access issues or Live ID mismatch issues, you might see the blank dialog.

3) Clean machines shouldn’t be required. Period.

You are absolutely right. What you were probably seeing is a manifestation of #1 and #2 above. We are aware of one issue with the Visual Studio 20008 Web Authoring Component which, if installed, can cause your update  to fail. While the workaround is to uninstall the VS component from the Control Panel, we are working on updating our install to circumvent this issue.

 

Finding a solution for you

One of the primary challenges is that we are installing bits into and integrating with products that have released,  Office XP/2003/2007. As a result, we have constraints on what we can and cannot change (not to mention the code base is HUGE!) So we had to figure out exactly what was happening, why it was happening, repro the issues exactly,  and then work with the experts to find fixes without breaking Office or Windows. Whew, no small task!

 

We have good news

We have taken all of the findings and with the help of the Office and Windows teams come up with a solution that closely delivers on our primary goal – to make integration as seamless as possible.  We can now present to you a single package available as a single download, the “Office Live Update 1.1” which:

  • Installs the necessary performance updates so that we don’t make roundtrips,  and makes the network stacks “smart” so they do the right thing for OLW
  • Installs the Windows Live Sign-in Assistant that ensures that logging into the browser essentially logs you in to Office, so you don’t get prompted again and again
  • Installs the new Office Live Add-in v1.1 which shows who you are logged in as right there in the menu flyout.

We have made this available in all our new international languages, too. Let us know how this works for you, as we are still working on further improvements. And, as always, we thank you for taking the time to provide your feedback because it really helps us get better.

 

Kavitha

Comments

Anonymous wrote Improvements to plug-in for Office Live Workspace
on 06-11-2008 4:20 AM

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on 06-12-2008 5:04 AM

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on 06-13-2008 5:44 AM

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mshassere wrote re: Your feedback is critical
on 06-13-2008 3:29 PM

Great app!!!!!.

The "Share" webpart is great.  Is there any code to add this to my internal Sharepoint site?

Kavitha R wrote re: Your feedback is critical
on 06-16-2008 1:40 PM

Thanks MShassere!

The Sharing functionality is part of OLW and cannot be seperately added to any other SharePoint site.  

swrobel wrote re: Your feedback is critical
on 06-19-2008 9:42 PM

I can't figure out how to sort by any of the columns in the open file dialog.  Am I missing something?

Manu R. Pandit wrote re: Your feedback is critical
on 06-25-2008 5:34 AM

hi its great to work with office live. I have a suggestion, if user can create word document or spreadsheet on internet itself without having need to install it on the system, it will be much helpful.

appleshane wrote re: Your feedback is critical
on 06-26-2008 4:07 AM

it's easier for me to work than ever before.Office Live Online is really helpful.It's to be more effective that I'm sure.

Jess C Doporto Jr wrote re: Your feedback is critical
on 06-26-2008 5:16 AM

I think this going to be a great way to communicate. It is going to save me hard disk space and help keep me organized. Planning group events, sharing documents and sending emails are streamlined by using Microsoft Office Live Beta.

Kavitha R wrote re: Your feedback is critical
on 07-20-2008 2:22 PM

Swrobel,

Sorting within the Open/File dialog for workspaces is currently not available. One way to workaround this is to sort your workspace view within OLW and we will pick it up in the File/Open dialog.

Manu, thanks for your support! We have received similar feedback from other customers too about onling editing and are looking into it.

Thanks AppleShane and Jess! Thats exactly what we are hoping to hear :)

safa2mech7awi wrote re: Your feedback is critical
on 05-08-2009 1:13 PM

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